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| Dominick's: 1763 West Howard Street. Photo: Google Earth. |
The robbery occurred around 12:30 a.m. at the Dominick’s grocery store at 1763 West Howard Street in Chicago’s Rogers Park neighborhood.
All three suspects were described as African-American men.
One offender is 6’1”, 230 to 240 lbs, has short hair and was last seen wearing a gray jacket. This man was also armed with a black handgun, said police.
The second suspect is 6’3”, 200 to 210 lbs, and was also wearing a gray jacket.
The third perpetrator is 5’8”, 155 lbs, and was last seen wearing a black jacket with a noticeable silver earring in one of his ears.
No further details are available.
I enjoy your reporting, but I take exception to your map-reading. West Rogers Park, at Clark and Howard? Where is East Rogers Park, then? Somewhere out in the lake, off of Juneway?
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ReplyDeleteTimothy doesn't say "West Rogers Park"..re-read the article. He says "1763 WEST HOWARD in Rogers Park neighborhood"..
Three men are wanted for an armed robbery at a far north side Chicago grocery store.
The robbery occurred around 12:30 a.m. at the Dominick’s grocery store at 1763 West Howard Street in Chicago’s Rogers Park neighborhood.
But to answer the question: Rogers Park goes from the Lake to Ridge. East Rogers Park is east of Clark, West Rogers Park is between Clark and Ridge. What most people call West Rogers Park (from Ridge to the canal) is actually West Ridge, according to the official community areas map of the city.
ReplyDeleteRight... but look at the URL. It *used* to say West Rogers Park, and the URL still shows it.
ReplyDeleteTowanda, initially, I entitled the article "West Rogers Park". I changed it when I realized I made a mistake.
ReplyDeleteFunny. With the exception of Towanda, Rudy, and Prepprep, most of the people who visit this blog usually have nothing to say. But the minute I make a mistake, that trumps the news I spent my valuable time researching.
Well, there's a great solution for that. If I stop wasting my time with this one-dimensional blog, there will be nothing to criticize.
Timothy, don't pay any attention to the "naysayers" or complainers about your blog, they wouldn't have the guts to do what you do. If they did, they wouldn't always be using "Anonymous" as their ID. You offer a service to us all. It's also impossible for one person to know every single neighborhood in this city, unless of course, they're a "tour guide" and have to know it.
ReplyDeleteThere's no such place as East Rogers Park.
ReplyDeleteUnless there's people living on the bottom of the lake.
It's not impossible to know all the neighborhoods, Towanda. It just takes getting around outside, away from the computer screen.
ReplyDeleteSome of us appreciate this blog but need to remain anonymous.
And Tim, really, what is there to say when one agrees with your reporting. Qui tacet consentire, etc.
No one is criticizing to point out an error in location. To those of us from Chicago, neighborhood names mean something, and carry a value. The above poster is also correct in his remarks about West Ridge.
Anonymous, if you know a website that accurately list the boundaries of every Chicago neighborhood, please share it with me. I have been searching for months, and haven't been able to find one.
ReplyDeleteI vehemently disagree with your flippant implication that getting away from my PC will help me learn the boundaries of every single neighborhood in Chicago.
After all, you and I both know that neighborhood boundaries are not drawn in bright colors on the sidewalk.
Furthermore, I don't have an issue with people not saying anything. Some people aren’t comfortable with expressing their feelings online. Sometimes… there is nothing to say.
However, I take offense to people spitting on my efforts and the many hours I have devoted to this blog - just to pounce on my mistakes.
If you want to correct me - fine. I have no problem with being corrected when I am wrong, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do it.
Running CNR is extremely demanding. Listening to the vile things people do to one another is emotionally draining. If I were simply regurgitating already printed news articles (the way some blogs do) producing content would be a cakewalk.
I started Chicago News Report, because I wanted to provide a platform for unreported crimes. I wanted to help people stay informed.
If you think biting my head off and dousing me in condescension, because I mislabeled a neighborhood, is showing appreciation -- I'm not the one who needs to spend less time in front of my computer.
Anonymous@3:28AM. I AM from the CITY and I do get "around outside away from the computer screen". Right now I have a broken leg(4 weeks and counting) but I also don't go out EVERYDAY because I'm retired and don't HAVE to. My partner & I are "resident tourest" and spend much time EXPLORING this city and could probably tell you about a lot of cool things in the neighborhoods that YOU didn't know about. Neighborhoods are not what they used to be 40+ years ago, just ask any real estate agent. Anything west of Clark to Western is considered west RP. Parts of Andersonville are considered Edgewater. Even "Lincoln Park" (the actual PARK) wasn't called Lincoln Park along the WHOLE lakefront north to Foster. Neighborhoods subdivide and than are not the "neighborhood" it used to be. The ward boundaries of these neighborhoods changed in 1998. So I beg to differ with you that
ReplyDelete"It's not impossible to know all the neighborhoods". The addresses & streets may remain the same but the neighborhood changes. Just check out some of the flags that hang on the poles in those neighborhoods and you'll see what I mean. Bucktown & Rosco Village didn't exist when I lived in Lakeview. River North wasn't there when I lived in the Gold Coast. How about the West Loop? You know what I'm talking about here.
I think you missed the point that Timothy was making, as well. Some people come on here only to make a correction in boundaries/neighborhoods and don't bother to comment other than that. It's like they're waiting for this boundary mistake and Timothy has asked several times for a website that gives the neighborhood boundaries.
You're right, it is ok to make a correction BUT if that's the only reason a person comments ALL the time, what's the point of reading this blog if they MISS the valuable service Timothy is giving us? No comment about the crime committed, just an "anonymous" comment to make a correction? Come on.
Timothy, I don't think that comment was directed at you. I think it was at me and I really don't care. But I get, by the way it was written. it would seem a criticism that YOU need to get away from the computer screen..IF you did that, where would we all be? Duped by the "fluff" of the mainstream media, that's where we'd be:(
"Qui tacet consentire," "He who is silent is taken to agree"? Now that attitude would not have CHANGED the country or Cairo for that matter:)
"Silence is not always golden".
Timothy & towanda,
ReplyDeleteMy brother, noone90210, and I were raised to treat people politely and respectfully. :) I prefer to discuss community crime and politics. He prefers to discuss the softer side of communities, which includes boundaries.
When it comes to boundaries, the ones that count the most are the official ones, which are used for census and other governmental purposes.
Realty companies are "allowed" to "invent" new community names. If someone in Galewood or Amundsen Park lists those names, instead of Austin, they (or their block/area) might not receive monies/improvements for schools, streets, sidewalks, etc. While I don't always believe that, at least that's what the government says. :)
Unlike community maps, ward maps are drawn by the aldermen, especially Mell and Burke. Supposedly, wards are based on population, but that's not always true. One look at 1950s and 1960s' ward boundaries, compared to today's, shows many odd "geometric" shapes. I have lived on blocks, where a different walking direction meant I was in a different ward. Sometimes, I didn't know which ward I was walking in, until the election signs popped up-sometimes int he wrong spots too!. :)
noone90210 and I will continue our search for official and unofficial maps. :)
Tim -
ReplyDeleteI think you have a great site.
But you are extremely oversensitive:
"However, I take offense to people spitting on my efforts and the many hours I have devoted to this blog - just to pounce on my mistakes."
Seriously? Who has spit upon your efforts? You have a decent blog but you need to accept that commenting comes with the territory. That is why you have decided to set forth into the public arena. No one bit your head off and doused you in condescension. I mean, come on. I will create an identity, though. My postings on this have been at February 11, 2011 3:18 AM and
February 14, 2011 3:28 AM. Not the other anonymous posts.
The computer remark was labeled to Towanda. It's not personal, T. I hope you heal quickly.
The Latin simply meant I agree with Tim F for the most part, and thus don't often comment. But, as Rudy has pointed out, neighborhood names and boundaries are pregnant with all sorts of implications of status, class, or desirability. To say Bucktown didn't exist when you resided in Lakeview is simply wrong, or you are about 110 years old. But your point is valid, nonetheless. Neighborhood names are shifty things in Chicago, and we should think about their application.
"Tom"..Hi:) Nice to put a name to your comments:) I take no offense to comments directed towards me, though I might respond ferociously, there is no malice intended and none taken. Blogs and their comments are for opinions and we all know about those:)
ReplyDeleteThanks for the "quick recovery" Tom, it already seems like forever.
As far as the "Bucktown" comment..God forbid I would be "a 110" years old, BUT, the neighborhood may have been there but the name of the neighborhood was not. seems like semantics to me, and that's the reason neighborhoods aren't the same as days gone by. They have new names, new boundaries caused by ward changes and often are subdivided into several different neighborhoods, causing much confusion. You and I just see it differently I guess.
As promised, here are some community/neighborhood URLs:
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_areas_of_Chicago
http://www.eldorrado.com/neighborhoods.htm#
noone90210, thank you for sharing this information. I have bookmarked both site! :-)
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